Re: 13x19 borderless on Canon s9000 and 13" high six-sheets long banners on Canon i9100?

explorer <> was inspired to say
>Been testing some older wide-bed printers recently, mixing and matching
>drivers and capabilities. Plus, I have no desire to make the
>ink-mafia/cartel wealthier by buying newer printers that can't be refilled
>easily and paying more than the price of platinum for a few drops of their
>precious inks. I don't support scam-artists nor pay any attention to their
>brain-dead and easily conned minions.
>
>Aside that, back to the issue at hand. I found out that the Canon s9000
>printer can use the driver from Canon's i9100 printer.
>
>The s9000 driver claims you can only print in a 6-page banner mode using
>plain paper in 8.5x11" size of sheets. But when I select the banner mode on
>the s9000 driver it also lets me select the 13x19" paper size. Will it
>allow for SIX 13x19" sheets worth of banner for a panorama? Someone with an
>i9100 test the s9000 drivers and let us know. I only have an s9000 to test
>this all on and I don't care to be wasting my 11x17" photo paper cut to
>13"-widths and taping it all together. Someone with an i9100 will have to
>test the banner-mode on theirs. Even though you have to select plain paper
>for banner mode with the s9000 drivers you're still allowed to go into
>custom print options to set the printing mode to highest quality, which is
>the same as highest photo resolution. The only caveat will be that (from
>what I understand) it won't use the photo-colors when using plain paper
>mode. It will limit the color matrix to just CMYK, no photo-cyan and
>photo-magenta on your panoramas. Though with a possible breathtaking
>panorama 13" high and 114" (9.5 ft.) long I don't think anyone will notice
>a few coarser hue transitions when standing back far enough to admire it
>all. I'm guessing on that maximum size. The s9000 driver is supposed to
>only do six 8.5"x11" sheets worth of panorama. If it's still limited to the
>max length of 11" x 6, with a 13" wide paper, that's still an impressive
>13"x66" (5.5 ft) pano.

I've used an S9000 for 7 years (since May 2002) and am still very happy
with it. There is (if I am right) one serious problem with your
statements above regarding banner/panorama printing.

On a Win 98SE m/c I could get fantastic panoramas - up to 8ft long (say
8 x A4 long) the limit seemed to the computer memory - they were *very*
big files) using Q-print.

Having moved over to a WIN XP Pro machine, I have been trying to
replicate this and on every one the maximum image size I can print has
been 24" (600mm).

A web search indicated that Canon's 98SE drivers permitted the panoramic
printing, but this was withdrawn for the XP drivers. So I have
reservations whether the i9100 drivers permit hi-quality printing (as
opposed to simple plain paper) banner printing.

If you find otherwise, I shall be very interested.

Thanks for your comments

Mike
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[Excuse top-post]

Just got in after a few days away and seen your two posts. Wow! That is
interesting!! Thanks for your investigation!

Can you e-mail me directly (the e-mail 'reply to' works!) and we'll take
this detailed discussion off-line - but will post final conclusions
here, if anyone else is interested!!

I need a few days to check it all out, though - BUT I do have 10M of 13"
wide roll paper!

Mike

explorer <> Was inspired to say
>On Fri, 1 May 2009 11:49:11 +0100, Michael J Davis
><> wrote:
>
>>I've used an S9000 for 7 years (since May 2002) and am still very happy
>>with it. There is (if I am right) one serious problem with your
>>statements above regarding banner/panorama printing.
>>
>>On a Win 98SE m/c I could get fantastic panoramas - up to 8ft long (say
>>8 x A4 long) the limit seemed to the computer memory - they were *very*
>>big files) using Q-print.
>>
>>Having moved over to a WIN XP Pro machine, I have been trying to
>>replicate this and on every one the maximum image size I can print has
>>been 24" (600mm).
>>
>>A web search indicated that Canon's 98SE drivers permitted the panoramic
>>printing, but this was withdrawn for the XP drivers. So I have
>>reservations whether the i9100 drivers permit hi-quality printing (as
>>opposed to simple plain paper) banner printing.
>>
>>If you find otherwise, I shall be very interested.
>>
>>Thanks for your comments
>
>
>Quick Update:
>
>Well, this is odd. Follow along ...
>
>I tried to install the Win98 drivers on XP. S9000 Ver.7.31. No go using the
>installer's setup.exe. Said it wouldn't work on XP. Then I made the
>setup.exe Win98 compatible. (Right click on setup.exe, properties,
>compatibility, etc.) It opened and tried to install but then closed up
>when I went to actually install it. So I went to manually add a printer by
>pointing it to the folder where the driver files were extracted to. I chose
>the "CJUS9000.INF" file, presuming the US in the filename referred to the
>english version or something. The other file being named "CJRS9000.INF". It
>only asked if I wanted to replace the old driver. I chose "no". It made a
>duplicate "Canon s9000 (copy 1)" driver which I later renamed to Canon
>s9000 Win98.
>
>I tried banner printing using that Win98 driver on my XP machine. I made a
>simple, large font, test-text banner about 12 pages long on 8.5" x 11"
>fan-fold tractor-feed paper (tractor strips removed).
>
>It printed out just fine. Though there was a problem in my application that
>I used to print it. I got some duplication of the image (large font text)
>at the page-break boundaries. I would need to fix that by changing to some
>custom paper size to get rid of the bottom margin in my application that I
>used, or use a different application that was more banner friendly. I'm
>sure that other programs that have a banner-mode in them would work just
>fine.
>
>The printer also had many false-starts with improper paper-feed when using
>such thin and old paper. Feels like old soft newsprint paper, it's so old
>and soft it could be used for TP in an emergency. But by pulling it out of
>the printer, turning it over, trying a few times and pressing the resume
>button each time, it would eventually feed.
>
>The Win98 status-monitor also works, because when I went to print it told
>me I had to move the paper-thickness selector to the right (for envelopes).
>I didn't bother. The status monitor was spying on my activities and showed
>me that I didn't flip that lever, so I HAD TO DO THAT. I reluctantly obeyed
>a machine's advice. Then it went to print.
>
>Then I tried using the original s9000 v1.61 XP driver. It too printed out a
>banner 12 pages long (11 ft.).
>
>I should have tried all this before installing the Win98 driver, as I now
>don't know if it would have worked just fine with the original s9000 driver
>for XP or if I needed something from the Win98 driver that overwrote
>something.
>
>In any case, banners work just fine on XP here. And can be printed out much
>much longer than any documentation or driver interface claim. Does anyone
>have about 200 ft. of Pro Photo Ultra-glossy 13" wide roll paper that they
>want to donate for testing purposes? :-) 13" high 20 ft. long panoramas
>anyone? This s9000 (or i9100) printer just might be the ultimate printer
>for anyone to ever own. Add a continuous-ink-system and you're all set.
>
>Try installing the Win98 driver on XP as I did. See if that fixes your
>problem. Or it might just be that the latest s9000 v1.61 XP driver works
>this way.
>
>It looks like XP i9100 owners might also be back in the banner-pano
>business after-all, if they too try the s9000 drivers.
>

Mike

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