Ink Drying Time on Photo Paper?

Discussion in 'Printer Paper / Media' started by Jack, Jan 21, 2006.

  1. Jack

    Jack Guest

    Got myself a new Canon ip5200 printer and printed a bunch of photos on
    Non-Canon glossy photo paper I had.
    As I am new to this, I do know and have not found any info on how long I
    need to let the prints dry before putting them into my photo album.
    Can anyone tell me how long I need to wait?
     
    Jack, Jan 21, 2006
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  2. Jack

    zakezuke Guest

    > Can anyone tell me how long I need to wait?

    Depends on the paper, as well as the enviroment. Microporous papers
    like the premium PR-101... and oddly enough Hammermil indoor sign
    labels I can spray with a polyacrylic spray directly out of the printer
    without bleeding... where a water based solution I have to wait. The
    kirkland photo paper for example I can pour under water directly out of
    the printer and it bleeds only a little bit. I'm thinking 20min would
    be overkill.. I lack an accurate number on this.

    Swellable papers like Kodak Premium Glossy paper a day would not be
    overkill.
     
    zakezuke, Jan 21, 2006
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  3. Jack

    SleeperMan Guest

    Jack wrote:
    > Got myself a new Canon ip5200 printer and printed a bunch of photos on
    > Non-Canon glossy photo paper I had.
    > As I am new to this, I do know and have not found any info on how
    > long I need to let the prints dry before putting them into my photo
    > album. Can anyone tell me how long I need to wait?


    Normally 12-24 hours is reccomended. However, Canon Photo paper is designed
    so that ink is dry "on the feel" instantly - because it has sort of ceramic
    micro coat and ink goes under this coat so you have the feeling that it's
    dry, while it's not. So before any spraying or putting into album, better
    wait 'til next day - at the end, what's the rush anyway...no need to tell (i
    hope) that absolute best paper is esential for excellent and long lasting
    results. Best way is to print some photos on canon's best (PR101) and
    compare with other paper you might have, although this will tell you visual
    difference, but not longevity one...

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    SleeperMan, Jan 21, 2006
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  4. Jack

    Burt Guest

    "zakezuke" <> wrote in message
    news:...
    >> Can anyone tell me how long I need to wait?

    >
    > Depends on the paper, as well as the enviroment. Microporous papers
    > like the premium PR-101... and oddly enough Hammermil indoor sign
    > labels I can spray with a polyacrylic spray directly out of the printer
    > without bleeding... where a water based solution I have to wait. The
    > kirkland photo paper for example I can pour under water directly out of
    > the printer and it bleeds only a little bit. I'm thinking 20min would
    > be overkill.. I lack an accurate number on this.
    >
    > Swellable papers like Kodak Premium Glossy paper a day would not be
    > overkill.


    Zakezuke is right when considering how quickly you can handle prints
    without concern for smearing, sorting, or mailing them. s on what you want
    to do with the prints. Apparently, the dry-to-touch condition of the prints
    when leaving the printer still has some residual moisture that should
    evaporate before framing, however. I have read that even with the so called
    "instant dry" papers, microporous papers like Canon and Kirkland, it would
    be best to leave them out for 24 hours before framing them as any residual
    moisture could condense on the glass.
     
    Burt, Jan 21, 2006
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  5. Jack

    Al Rudderham Guest

    On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:09:32 -0500, "Jack" <> wrote:

    >Got myself a new Canon ip5200 printer and printed a bunch of photos on
    >Non-Canon glossy photo paper I had.
    >As I am new to this, I do know and have not found any info on how long I
    >need to let the prints dry before putting them into my photo album.
    >Can anyone tell me how long I need to wait?


    Let me guess - it's Kodak paper, right? If so, pitch it in the trash.

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    Al Rudderham, Jan 22, 2006
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  6. Jack

    Ron Shaw Guest

    In article <iZvAf.14410$>,
    says...
    > Canon recommends 24 hours before putting them in an Album or behind
    > glass. I use Costco/Kirkland Full Sheet Glossy paper (may be Ilford)
    > and have found it is about 97% the quality as Canon Photo Paper Pro and
    > 1/7 of the cost.
    >

    Similar to the savings (although less than) you would get by refilling
    cartridges with aftermarket ink.
     
    Ron Shaw, Jan 22, 2006
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  7. Jack

    Ron Shaw Guest

    In article <CdOAf.12945$>,
    says...
    >
    >
    > Ron Shaw wrote:
    >
    > >Similar to the savings (although less than) you would get by refilling
    > >cartridges with aftermarket ink.
    > >
    > >

    > NO NOT AT ALL. NO MESS. YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE GETTING. IT WILL NOT
    > CLOG THE PRINTER. AND YOU HAVE A LARGE REPUTABLE SUPPLIER.
    >

    But, as you point out for ink, Costco doesn't tell you who their
    supplier is, Kirkland, is by your perverse definition "NOT A BRAND" and
    they are "in da business" (excuse me, I meant to say "DEY ARE IN DA
    BUSINESS") whatever tf that is supposed to mean.
     
    Ron Shaw, Jan 23, 2006
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  8. You are assuming that because it doesn't bleed it is "dry", and this
    isn't accurate. Microporus papers lock the ink in under the ceramic
    layer into the layers of substrate below the porous layer, but that
    doesn't make them dry.

    Most, if not all inkjet inks contain some glycols to both slow drying
    (to help prevent clogs) and to help them penetrate the surface (they
    break up surface tension). Glycols can take weeks to dry. If you seal
    a print before the glycols have evaporated they can get caught inside
    the paper, because the back of most inkjet paper isn't porous (there is
    often a plastic surface somewhere on the backing either right at the
    surface, or under all the top surface surfaces.


    People who, for instance, frame images soon after printer on microporous
    papers, often find a ghostly copy of the image developing on the inside
    glass surface, made of evaporated and redeposited glycols. This is
    particularly the case with high glycol inks, Epson Ultrachrome are one
    example.

    In the case of those inks, up to a week covered with absorbent newsprint
    is recommended.

    Art


    zakezuke wrote:

    >> Can anyone tell me how long I need to wait?

    >
    >
    > Depends on the paper, as well as the enviroment. Microporous papers
    > like the premium PR-101... and oddly enough Hammermil indoor sign
    > labels I can spray with a polyacrylic spray directly out of the printer
    > without bleeding... where a water based solution I have to wait. The
    > kirkland photo paper for example I can pour under water directly out of
    > the printer and it bleeds only a little bit. I'm thinking 20min would
    > be overkill.. I lack an accurate number on this.
    >
    > Swellable papers like Kodak Premium Glossy paper a day would not be
    > overkill.
    >
     
    Arthur Entlich, Jan 23, 2006
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  9. Kodak makes swellable polymer papers. It is a valid technology, and the
    advantage is it locks the inks in place better so they do not fade as
    easily. The difference in fading can be significant, and since some
    Canon inks are relatively fugitive, this can be important.

    The downside is this type of paper takes longer to dry (surface dry),
    and remains vulnerable to fingerprints and water/moisture.

    Art

    Al Rudderham wrote:

    > On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 05:09:32 -0500, "Jack" <> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Got myself a new Canon ip5200 printer and printed a bunch of photos on
    >>Non-Canon glossy photo paper I had.
    >>As I am new to this, I do know and have not found any info on how long I
    >>need to let the prints dry before putting them into my photo album.
    >>Can anyone tell me how long I need to wait?

    >
    >
    > Let me guess - it's Kodak paper, right? If so, pitch it in the trash.
    >
     
    Arthur Entlich, Jan 23, 2006
    #9
  10. Jack

    Prime Guest

    Frank <> posted the exciting message
    news:chhBf.11512$eR.7848@fed1read03:

    >
    > G_d forbid that idiot should attempt to refill. Get the video camera
    > ready! Send it to the dumbest video show!
    > Frank
    >


    Canon Printer - $129
    Anti-psychotic prescription - $49
    Kirkland Photo Paper - $19.95
    Another anti-psychotic prescription - $49

    Measkite refilling - Priceless!
     
    Prime, Jan 24, 2006
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  11. Jack

    Frank Guest

    Prime wrote:
    > Frank <> posted the exciting message
    > news:chhBf.11512$eR.7848@fed1read03:
    >
    >
    >>G_d forbid that idiot should attempt to refill. Get the video camera
    >>ready! Send it to the dumbest video show!
    >>Frank
    >>

    >
    >
    > Canon Printer - $129
    > Anti-psychotic prescription - $49
    > Kirkland Photo Paper - $19.95
    > Another anti-psychotic prescription - $49
    >
    > Measkite refilling - Priceless!


    :)
    Frank
     
    Frank, Jan 24, 2006
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  12. Jack

    zakezuke Guest

    >>you could even say the same thing about walmart which I think is a terrible store

    > We have a revalation here! Measpite has agreed that if a BIG company
    > relabels, then they're OK! All we need is for Office Depot or Staples to
    > sell their own "brand" of ink and he'll say that's OK!


    Or Pelikan / Nu-Kote, which is actually sold at walmart under it's own
    name and under the Walmart label. In fact Measkite him self has bought
    the Pelikan brand at office depot for his adding machine {Nov 4 2005,
    7:39 pm}. It said it was crap, but that doesn't change the fact that
    he knows the brand personaly, and admits it is a brand.

    Those store brands are often really easy to look up. The first digits
    of the barcode tell you who packaged the package. Officedepot looks up
    to Nu-kote. Officemax I believe is NCR but I can not verify this
    presently.

    I've never used NCR nor Nu-Kote/Pelikan personaly.

    > > you are welcome to call the merchandising department in seattle and they will
    > > tell you <who makes Kirkland Photo paper>

    <edit mine>

    I'm actually close to seattle, and I have taken the time to talk to
    them about the subject. I honestly don't know if Kirkland is Ilford or
    Pelikan, but I have spent much time and no one I have spoken to has any
    idea what it is. Provide a phone number, and a name of the person who
    told you that. No one who I've called or seen would tell me.

    > Oh, excuse me. I was using logic.
     
    zakezuke, Jan 24, 2006
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